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  Don Easterbrook
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 01-07-2020, 04:49 PM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - Replies (1)


Measurements of oxygen isotopes in Greenland and Antarctica ice cores allow reconstruction of ancient temperatures back 800,000 years and measurements of radiocarbon and Beryllium-10 indicate the intensity of cosmic rays entering the Earth’s atmosphere.

Sunspots are a reflection of the strength of the sun’s magnetic field, which acts as shield for cosmic rays approaching the Earth. When the strength of the sun’s magnetic field is reduced, more cosmic rays enter the atmosphere. In every case, when sunspot numbers are low, the Earth’s climate is cool, and whenever sunspot numbers are high, the Earth’s climate is warm.

The intensity of incoming cosmic rays determines the rate of production of beryllium-10 and radiocarbon. Radio‒carbon is taken in by plants and other life forms and preserved for thousands of years where it gradually decays. Age measurements based on the amount of remaining 14C can be compared with independent calendar years, allowing determination of 14C production rates. Measurement of production rates 14C can be used to determine the intensity of cosmic rays reaching the Earth in the past.

Beryllium-10 is produced in the upper atmosphere by collision of cosmic particles with oxygen. The higher the incidence of cosmic rays, the more 10Be is produced. Beryllium-10 falls out of the atmosphere with snow and is incorp‒orated in glacial ice. Thus, measurement of the amount of 10Be in ice cores can be used to determine the intensity of cosmic rays in the past. High amounts of 10Be in ice cores means high levels of cosmic rays in the atmosphere then.

Sunspot numbers, indicating solar magnetic strength, and 10Be and/or radiocarbon production rates, indicating cosmic ray intensity, were examined for every period of cooling or warming for which data are available. In every case examined in this study, whenever sunspot numbers were low and/or 10Be and/or radiocarbon levels were high, the Earth’s climate was cold. In every case when sunspot numbers were high and/or 10Be and/or radiocarbon levels were low, the Earth’s climate was warm . Thus, what these data show is that fluctuations of the strength of the sun’s magnetic field is the principal control of the Earth’s climate, including the origin of the Ice Ages.

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Posted by: Sunsettommy - 12-11-2019, 03:05 AM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies



Since you demonstrate knowledge of IPCC reports, it is unclear to me why you are lying about this.

Exact quote:

Quote:How quickly will global climate change?
a If emissions follow a Business-as-Usual pattern
Under the IPCC Business-as-Usual (Scenario A) emissions of greenhouse gases, the average rate of increase of global mean temperature during the next century is estimated to be about 0 3°C per decade (with an uncertainty range of 0 2°C to 0 5°C) This will result in a likely increase in global mean temperature of about 1°C above the present value (about 2°C above that in the pre-industrial period) by 2025.

First Assessment Report. Working Group I. Policymakers Summary. Page XXII.


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Posted by: Sunsettommy - 12-11-2019, 02:59 AM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies



Those predictions, whether new or not, have been and still are being widely circulated through the mass media to scare people silly about climate change, so the point is not that some predictions are bound to be incorrect. The entire alarmist building is raised on false premises.

1 & 2. Just read it

They are very specific about what to expect by 2025. Of the 35 years, 28 have already passed. The expected increase and rate of increase has not happened by a big margin.

3. They talk about the consequences of milder winters because milder winters were expected. They did not talk about the consequences of harsher winters due to global warming until harsher winters appeared.

4. NH Snow cover unchanged. Not my problem if you can’t find the data.

5. The first prediction of water stress due to lack of precipitations was shown unsustained, as eventually all drastic predictions will.

6. You don’t read the press, do you? We are constantly bombarded by claims from alarmist scientists that climate change is making weather extremes oh so much worse. Do I have to look for the link where Michael Mann was saying how Harvey was made worse by climate change? Failure to predict shows they are bogus.

7. Can you prove that wildfires have increased? I can prove that in the EU wildfires have decreased. This is consistent with the article that clearly states that overall fires are decreasing. Not precisely the promised scenario.

8. Munk’s enigma was published in 2002. The predictions and explanations that go the opposite way were published later. Mitrovica’s explanation of Munk’s enigma is controversial. William Peltier, who was Mitrovica’s thesis advisor, says it is wrong.


9 & 10. Well known Arctic sea ice predictions and well laughed at.

11. The glacier prediction showed what the IPCC considered acceptable sources, and how much they took into consideration their own reviewer warnings. The whole IPCC process is contaminated by bias from its very set up as a panel dedicated to find an anthropogenic effect on climate change.

B1. Oh yes, Sherwood Idso did predict the greening
Industrial age leading to the greening of the Earth?

But as he was immediately labeled as a skeptic, or worse, I don’t think you can count that on the side of the warmists, or even consensus builders.
Sherwood Idso label at Wikipedia:

So that one is a score for the skeptics.

B2. Deforestation was believed to be a more important factor driving a global loss of forests. Just the opposite has been found.

B3. The missing sink was all the fuss in the early 90’s carbon budget accounting. They weren’t able to predict the observed increase in the sinks and they could not understand it for quite some time after observing it. Clearly it was not expected.

B4. The Pause was never predicted. The possibility that the warming rate could actually go down while CO2 was increasing was not considered in the literature before it happened. Most of the literature on the pause is from 2013 onward. Finding an earlier paper disproves nothing. The issue was ignored until it became impossible, and attempts are still being made at erasing the pause from the records.

Since you are not an alarmist. Why would you defend them when they are clearly and demonstrably so wrong?

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Posted by: Sunsettommy - 12-09-2019, 09:18 PM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies


US Climate Research Network was specifically designed and set up to avoid measurement errors, changes in technology, changes in procedures and UHI. It covers the entire country. It shows the US is not warming since it was initiated. In fact, 2018 and 2019 are both colder than the first three years (2005, 2006, 2007) that the system was up and reporting.


USHCN has a lot more long term data and it shows that the 1930’s were way hotter than the present in the US. Some of these stations are compromised by UHI and other changes so the results are subject to cherry picking and data manipulation. Check out Tony Heller at realclimatescience.com if you want good analysis of other temperature histories.
I am like every other skeptic who has looked at the temperature histories and I think the NOAA/NASA version (the cleaned, adjusted, homogenized, V4 of their global temperature report) is hopelessly confirmation biased.


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  Climate Hustle
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 11-15-2019, 04:20 PM - Forum: Video - No Replies

Amazon LINK

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Posted by: Sunsettommy - 11-01-2019, 09:30 PM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies


Your web comments are good. But the following 6 links best describe the whole global warming situation.
IPCC Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change
GCM General Circulation Model (many, based on IPCC CO2 assertions)
Shows that temperature change over the last 200 years is due to 3 things: 1) cycling of the ocean temperature, 2) sun variations and 3) moisture in the air. There is no significant dependence of temperature on CO2.
Connolly father & son
Shows the vertical temperature profile follows the ideal gas laws and is not caused by CO2. Millions of weather balloon scans and trillions of data points have been analyzed to come to these conclusions. One important conclusion is that there is no green house gas effect.

Pat Frank
Shows that GCM results cannot be extrapolated a few years, let alone 50 or 100.
Joe Postma
Shows that the “flat earth model”of the IPCC is too simple. Their real models are built into the GCMs which don’t fit the real data.

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  Tom Abbott
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 10-31-2019, 03:54 PM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies


steven wrote: “psst. also, usa aint the globe”
err.. nope.

Actually, the USA *is* the globe, when it comes to temperature profiles. All other unmodified surface temperature records, from around the world and from both hemispheres, resemble the USA surface temperature profile, which shows the 1930’s to have been just as warm as today.

Here are some temperature charts from around the world. Look at how similar their temperature profiles are. They look nothing like the Hockey Stick chart that erases the warmth of the 1930’s for political purposes, because if it was just as warm in the 1930’s as it is today then that means we are not experiencing unprecedented warmth today, as the alarmists claim, and that means that CO2 is a minor player in the Earth’s atmosphere, not a threat. So the Data Manipulating conspirators had to get rid of that inconvenient truth.

Tmax charts

US chart:

China chart:

India chart:

Norway chart:

Australia chart:

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  Don Easterbrook
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 10-29-2019, 06:11 PM - Forum: Worthy Comments to read from the internet - No Replies


I just competed a study of all warm and cold periods over the past 800,000 years and discovered what must be the cause of the Ice Ages and other climate changes. I looked at oxygen isotope temperatures, deuterium temperatures, CET temperatures, sunspot numbers, total solar irradiance, production rates of beryllium-10 and radiocarbon, and cosmic ray intensity for every warm and cold period (for which data is available) in the past 800,000 years. The data is truly remarkable˗˗every cool period without exception was characterized by low sunspot numbers, indicating low strength of the sun’s magnetic field, and high production rates of beryllium˗10 and radiocarbon, indicating high intensity of cosmic rays. Every warm period was coincident with high sunspot numbers and low production rates of beryllium˗10 and radiocarbon. Thus, it is unequivocally clear that climate changes, large and small, are driven by fluctuations of the sun’s magnetic field. A book, “The solar magnetic cause of climate changes and origin of the ice ages” with full documentation is available on Amazon.

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  Alarmist Claim Rebuttals
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 10-23-2019, 07:13 PM - Forum: Climate and Weather - No Replies


Alarmist Claim Rebuttals

May 20, 2019

Joseph D'Aleo, CCM, AMS Fellow


Alarmist Claim Rebuttal Overview[1]

Below are a series of rebuttals of the 11 most common climate alarmists’ claims such as those made in the recently released Fourth National Climate Assessment Report.[2] The authors of these rebuttals are all recognized experts in the relevant

For each alarmist claim, a summary of the relevant rebuttal is provided below along with a link to the full text of the rebuttal, which includes the names and the credentials of the authors of each rebuttal.

  • Heat Waves – have been decreasing since the 1930s in the U.S. and globally
  • Hurricanes – hurricane activity is flat to down since 1900, landfalls in the US are declining
  • Tornadoes – the number of strong tornadoes have declined over the last half century
  • Droughts and Floods – no statistically significant trends
  • Wildfires – decreasing since 1800s. The increase in damage in recent years is due to population growth in vulnerable areas and poor forest management
  • Snowfall – increasing in the fall and winter in the Northern Hemisphere and North America with many records being set.
  • Sea level – the rate of global sea level rise on average has fallen by 40% the last century. Where it is increasing – local factors such as land subsidence are to blame.
  • Arctic, Antarctic and Greenland Ice – the polar ice varies with multidecadal cycles in ocean temperatures. Current levels are comparable to or above historical low levels
  • Alaska July 2019 heat records – this resulted from a warm North Pacific and reduced ice in the Bering Sea late winter due to strong storms. The opposite occurred with record cold in 2012.
  • Ocean Acidification – when life is considered, ocean acidification is often found to be a non-problem, or even a benefit.
  • Carbon Pollution as a health hazard – carbon dioxide (CO2) is an odorless invisible trace gas that is plant food and it is essential to life on the planet. It is not a pollutant.
  • Climate change is endangering food supply – the vitality of global vegetation in both managed and unmanaged ecosystems is better off now than it was a hundred years ago, 50 years ago, or even a mere two-to-three decades ago thanks in part to CO2.
Claim: Heat Waves are increasing at an alarming rate and heat kills.


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  Registration Closed
Posted by: Sunsettommy - 09-18-2019, 12:37 PM - Forum: Site Announcement - Replies (1)

Due to numerous spammers trying to register to join, with no valid people wanting to join, I will CLOSE the registration section for a while.


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